The latest Top 10:
- 1.(T) Greg Schiano (Rutgers) - 2001
1.(T) Gary Pinkel (Missouri) - 2001
3.(T) Bobby Johnson (Vandy) - 2002
3.(T) Jeff Tedford (Cal) - 2002
5. Mike Riley (Oregon State) - 2003
6.(T) Randy Edsall (UConn) - 2004 Joined Big East
6.(T) Mike Stoops (Arizona) - 2004
8.(T) Steve Spurrier (South Carolina) - 2005
8.(T) Jim Leavitt (USF) - 2005 Joined Big East
8.(T) Mike Gundy (Ok State) - 2005
8.(T) Dave Wannstedt (Pitt) - 2005
As for the Ray Goff comparison I continually make between Spurrier's tenure at Carolina and Ray's disastrous stint with the Dawgs...Spurrier needs 6 wins to surpass Goff's win total during his first six years in Athens. However, he'll need to go at least 11-2 to surpass Ray's winning percentage over the same number of years...by only .00079 percentage points.
All the Evil is gone. He's just a Harmless Genius now.
PWD
16 comments:
I'd love to send this to someone who was telling me south carolina and florida would be the only contenders in the east next year.
this reminds me of some bullshit I continually heard during the Fox (bleah) telecast of the Sugar Bowl, namely "Tebow has led Florida to be the winningest team in SEC history during his time there."
Well, that is true if you go strictly by the raw number of wins (and if you give Tebow credit for Chris Leak's senior year,when Tebow was a cleverly used bit player). On the other hand, SEC teams now play 12 games, plus the SEC championship game, so that's 7 extra games Tebow got to play that Herschel didn't.
If you look at the winning percentage, it is clear that Herschel's class at UGA, which went 11-1 without him as seniors (he almost contributed as much to that season as Tebow did his freshman year, if you want to look at it that way), won more frequently.
True, Florida had 2 NCs, which you can't ignore, but UGA had 3 SEC titles to Florida's 2, and NEVER had a year like Tebow's sophomore season, where Florida coughed up a particularly ugly effort to a Michigan team that had previously gacked one up at home to mighty Appalachian State. Only a 13-7 loss to AU in the last conference game of 1983 kept UGA from making it 4 straight SEC titles, and that was the only conference loss for UGA in the whole 4 years (yes, they do play 8 now instead of 6, but we beat S Carolina every year then, just like now. So it's closer than you might think)
I hate that we play USC at the beginning of each season. They always play their best football at the beginning of the season. I think we all agree that we would have preferred to play USC later in the 2007 campaign.
Spurrier's record in Columbia says more about South Carolina than the coach. It's just a very difficult place to win. If Spurrier can't win there who can?
Are we sure it's the evil part that's changed?
This is super nit-picky, but I guess Mike Riley shouldn't get the (T) next to his name since he's all alone in 5th place, correct?
i think nutt should probably be added to the list. i dont think he's ever been to a bcs game and has been in the SEC longer than anyone but sos.
Alas, the "Harmless Genius" still cost us a MNC in '07.
Spurrier is the most overrated coach in college football.
Last year when SC was considered the 5th best team in the SEC (pre-season) he quipped, "I guess that means we'd win the Big 10." His team then went on to get smoked by Iowa (the 4th best team in the B10 that year) in a bowl game.
He's a complete parody at this point.
Crow - Fixed.
Cary - Longest tenured at same school. If you're going to look at coaches overall at BCS Schools, the list starts with Tom O'Brien at NCSU and then goes to Houston Nutt. O'brien dates back to '97 and Nutt to '98.
If Tommy Bowden returns to coaching at the BCS level, he would then be next on the list.
PWD, This is off topic, but could you write up an article about the fraud of Florida's scheduling? They play USF Miami (oh) App state and FSU. Meanwhile Auburn, Georgia, Ole Miss, Tennessee, Miss State and LSU are going out of state or playing major teams at home.
I'd love to see a reporter make the comparison between his record and Goff's record in a press conference with Spurrier, just to see what he would say. I mean, how can you defend yourself when you have an almost identical record to a guy you called "Goof?"
Harmless genius with a mean streak. Spurrier is still lethal with the right location. Like the pac 10. Spurrier is having to compete with the monster he created. Everything revolves around UF in that part of the land.
Put him on the left coast and it is totally different. Something like UCLA or ASU. He's too far down the food chain for the East Coast.
Taylor,
Calling UF's schedule for 2010 a "fraud" is a little over the top. USF is from a AQ conference and can pull the upset (only early in the season however). FSU is a perennial rival. Do not diss App State (I have a master's degree from there)! Also, is there an SEC team that does NOT play at one 1-AA team on a regular basis?
That is a far better slate of opponents than UF played this year. They have the advantage of having several FBS programs in the state. I do not know when they added USF, but it might originally been seen as a gimme--no longer and certainly not if they lose a lot of players off this team and Meyer does not coach (although I think he will).
UGA plays CU out of conference, but the rest are lame (one of the Louisiana schools and Idaho State). CU is terrible and I see no improvement (I live in CO).
Are these much better?
Auburn:
Arkansas State
Clemson
UL-Monroe
UTC
Ole Miss:
Jax State
Fresno State (pretty good game)
LA-Lafayette
Tulane
Tennessee
Akron (the Zips? Who can take that seriously?)
Oregon--gotta hand it to UT for always having one marquee match up often with a Pac-10 team and this is a doozy!
UAB
Memphis
Miss State:
Memphis
Alcorn
Houston (not bad)
UAB
LSU
UNC (Atlanta)
WVU
McNeese State
UL-Monroe
Here is my analysis of the teams you listed.
Each plays one 1-AA team (unless I missed one) and/or a poor team from a weak conference.
LSU has the toughest with UNC and WVU although UF matches pretty well with USF and FSU (same conference cross over in fact).
UT playing Oregon. Tough game. The rest should not be a concern.
Ole Miss is pretty weak with Fresno its only challenging team out of the bunch. Miss State has Houston, certainly a team capable of pulling off a win and probably will be favored over Miss State.
Auburn has Clemson. A cool match up no doubt. I miss Clemson. It was my first UGA game as a student and several friends went there. I was 1-1-1 against them (not that I really had anything to do with it). The rest are sisters of the poor.
UGA's is pretty weak. CU is poor and will not get better by next year. The others are cupcakes.
Aside from LSU, they all look pretty similar to me.
Interesting.
Tedford has had teams that looked like they should win the conference (and he probably got robbed of an appearance one year by lobbying efforts by another school).
Riley: does a lot with so little. I really like to watch the Oregon schools play. They will pull the upset and then lose some game. Love that the Pac-10 has a round robin format. I would gladly lose Ark and USC, go back to 10 games and play everyone. He also has been on the cusp a couple of times (this year most notably).
Wannstedt appears to be the most likely candidate to get off the list next year. Came pretty damn close (1 pt) this year.
The Big East schools are all so close that any one of them could get off the list on any given year.
Also, can we even call Spurrier the Harmless Genius anymore? He has not been successful since leaving UF. Which shows how impressive Nick Saban is with some good results at Michigan State, a BCS title at LSU and potentially another one at Bama. Not many coaches these days are successful at 2 big time schools.
Sam, Dawg Fan,
Ga Tech is an out of conference game.
Nemov, thanks for adding that. I left them off since they are not really a team we choose to play in that they are a rival, but Tech certainly looks like it would be a quality game for 2010.
Maybe I just consider Tech to be one of the cupcakes ;)
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